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    Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?


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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    As long as the cab is properly braced and damped ? I wouldn't worry about that too much..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelgall View Post

    I have guests this weekend that were unexpected by me (my wife neglected to mention them) I'll get the full specs early this week.
    So VERY appreciated!!!

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    OK, so it wasn't early in the week.
    I have the updated results for the 604E on a Woofer tester II. Note that I used 330mm as the piston diameter.

    Buffer[1] Vas Ver 5.00
    Completed: Thu Jul 19 17:02:53 2012
    Drive level 79.433 % [ 2.847 mA]
    Sine,LoZP(LV/LA)->Vas,19 pts
    ;------------------------------------------------------------------
    Re = 13.6020 ohms
    Fs = 24.5361 Hz
    Zmax = 268.6107 ohms
    Qes = 0.2303
    Qms = 4.3178
    Qts = 0.2186
    Le = 2.4041 mH (at 1 kHz)
    Diam = 329.9983 mm ( 12.9921 in )
    Sd =85528.9996 mm^2(132.5702 in^2)
    Vas = 688.2739 L ( 24.3062 ft^3)
    BL = 24.0502 N/A
    Mms = 63.5270 g
    Cms = 662.3231 uM/N
    Kms = 1509.8372 N/M
    Rms = 2.2682 R mechanical
    Efficiency = 4.1478 %
    Sensitivity= 98.1962 dB @1W/1m
    Sensitivity= 95.8911 dB @2.83Vrms/1m
    Krm = 143.176E-06 ohms Freq dependent resistance
    Erm = 1.112E+00 Rem=Krm*(2*pi*f)^Erm
    Kxm = 26.907E-03 Henries Freq dependent reactance
    Exm = 708.780E-03 Xem=Kxm*(2*pi*f)^Exm
    ;------------------------------------------------------------------
    Ftest = 22.211 Hz
    Ftest/Fms = 0.9052
    Test Mass used = 14.0000 g (Equal to 2.8 nickels)
    Test Mass (Ft=Fms*0.90) = 14.901 g (Add 0.901g for Ft=22.083)
    Test Mass (Ft=Fms*0.75) = 49.410 g (Add 35.410g for Ft=18.402)
    Last edited by zelgall; July 19th, 2012 at 05:11 PM. Reason: re-ran with correct piston diameter - a slight update

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    Quote Originally Posted by zelgall View Post
    OK, so it wasn't early in the week.
    I have the updated results for the 604E on a Woofer tester II. Note that I used 315mm as the piston diameter.

    Buffer[1] Vas Ver 5.00
    Completed: Thu Jul 19 16:28:59 2012
    Drive level 89.125 % [ 3.199 mA]
    Sine,LoZP(LV/LA)->Vas,19 pts
    ;------------------------------------------------------------------
    Re = 12.3198 ohms
    Fs = 24.1488 Hz
    Zmax = 251.2763 ohms
    Qes = 0.2005
    Qms = 3.8896
    Qts = 0.1907
    Le = 2.4134 mH (at 1 kHz)
    Diam = 313.9998 mm ( 12.3622 in )
    Sd =77437.0059 mm^2(120.0276 in^2)
    Vas = 565.3250 L ( 19.9643 ft^3)
    BL = 24.7002 N/A
    Mms = 65.4506 g
    Cms = 663.6460 uM/N
    Kms = 1506.8275 N/M
    Rms = 2.5532 R mechanical
    Efficiency = 3.7303 %
    Sensitivity= 97.7355 dB @1W/1m
    Sensitivity= 95.8603 dB @2.83Vrms/1m
    Krm = 5.114E-03 ohms Freq dependent resistance
    Erm = 810.049E-03 Rem=Krm*(2*pi*f)^Erm
    Kxm = 33.816E-03 Henries Freq dependent reactance
    Exm = 689.723E-03 Xem=Kxm*(2*pi*f)^Exm
    ;------------------------------------------------------------------
    Ftest = 21.918 Hz
    Ftest/Fms = 0.9076
    Test Mass used = 14.0000 g (Equal to 2.8 nickels)
    Test Mass (Ft=Fms*0.90) = 15.353 g (Add 1.353g for Ft=21.734)
    Test Mass (Ft=Fms*0.75) = 50.906 g (Add 36.906g for Ft=18.112)
    Mahalo, much appreciated!

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    Re: Small Room: 604's, 14's, or 19's?

    No problem. Check the updated numbers though. I used a piston diameter that was a bit off on the first run. It doesn't change much but if your using a box calculator, you might as well use correct numbers.

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